The Welsh designer lashed out at plus-size models in a recent interview, calling fashionistas with curvier figures a “joke” and saying there’s no room for superior girls on the show he hosts, “Britain’s Top Model”.

“This is a serious show, a catwalk model is a range six to eight” Macdonald told Wales on Sunday, according to the Daily Mail. You can’t have a plus size girl winning – it builds it a joke. (Size six to eight in Britain interprets approximately to size two to four in the U.S.)

The fashion world needs to modify, Renn told the Independent. Women on the street don’t narrate to all this talk of plus sizes, and it creates an ‘us and them’ mentality, which leads to comments similar to the ones Julien Macdonald has made.